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12/09/2008 23:55:48
So, you think Photography is an Art? Hi Folks,

I've just joined the site and saw this topic - the question posed being something I've pondered for a very long time. I can't say I have any coherent answers but there are questions going off in my head that might provoke further discussions.

Is the term 'art' being used here as a substitute for 'dexterity'? If so, then it could be argued that photography is an art in the same way as painting or any other 'artistic' process. That being the case, isn't the output of an artistic process 'art' per se? Alternatively, is art solely defined, like beauty, in the eye of the beholder?

I think it was Ansel Adams that said something along the lines of 'Photography is more than a medium for factual communication of ideas. It is a creative art'. And yet is photojournalism art or just a form of social or historical commentary? Can photography be both things? Why not?

To be honest, I'm not convinced there's any difference between a photographer 'painting a canvas' using a camera and enlarger or a painter creating an image with brushes and a chosen medium. The end result of both processes is an attempt to attract a response - be it to the process by which the images have been created or an emotional connection to the subject matter. Or both.

As I said, I don't have an answer - just an opinion. For me, photography can be art or just a snapshot of time. or both. A cop out? No, I don't think so. I think that photography's a broad enough church to be capable of having different interpretations, even simultaneously.

Cheers and here's hoping I can contribute to the image / art element of the site and learn from you fine fellows......

Paul.
13/09/2008 20:39:11
So, you think Photography is an Art? Hi Gal.

Well, I am a very simple man at heart! I completely agree that just because someone like Ansel Adams said it that it is not a universal truth. However, the crux of my supposition is, I suppose, is that if people find the photographer's output 'artistic' as opposed to, say, interesting as a social record, then - to the viewer at least - the photgrapher is an artist and his work is 'art'.

The quote you included is very perceptive. My father was a cabinet maker and antique restorer who most definitely worked with his hands, head and his heart. He would never have claimed to have been an artist, though, but I know many people who have described his work as 'a work of art'. Again, only a figure of speech but the difference between an Ikea stool and a Chippendale chair. Function and form. It's almost certainly true that the Ikea stool will be long forgotten firewood centuries before Chippendale's 'art' will have fallen from grace!

Oh well; I doubt this subject will ever be decided. Would that someone would regard my work as art one day.......

Best wishes, Paul.
15/09/2008 23:43:59
And what is so bad about Hip Shots? It's not a technique I've tried and, to be honest, it doesn't really appeal to me. Despite previously having had a rangefinder with prime lenses which I could pre-focus, I prefer to be 'seen' taking my shots - even at the expense of getting that ideal shot of an 'unguarded' moment. It's not a moralistic thing - just that I don't want anyone to be in any doubt what I'm doing and, if they object, to have the opportunity to say so. I also relish the opportunity to frame the shot as I want it rather than take 'pot luck' with whether I my aim of the camera has worked out okay.

The main problem with the UK, insofar as photographers are concerned at present, is the media-led paranoia which instantly demonises 'street' photographers into being paedophiles, terrorists or 'snoops' working on behalf of the state social benefits system and trying to catch benefit fraudsters. It is a brave photographer who wields their camera in public - especially at close quarters where 'people' are in the line of sight. Sad but true, I'm afraid to report.
18/09/2008 20:24:54
Adding a new camera and lens If not already available, could you please add:

Nikkor 17-55 f2.8
Nikkor 50mm f1.8
Nikkor 85mm f1.8
Nikkor 24mm f2.8
Nikkor 70-300mm VR
Tamron 11-18mm
Tamron 90mm f2.8 Macro
Bronica SQ-B
Zenzanon 80mm f2.8
Zenzanon 150mm f4.0

Many thanks,

Paul.
30/09/2008 23:51:06
What motivates us to take photographs? At the risk of people proving that there are as many motovations as there are photographers, what is it that gets your creative juices going?

For me, it's the chance to interact with people, things and places I haven't met, seen or been to before. That's probably why my favourite genres are travel and landscape photography. I also like slightly quirky images, though I am still trying to develop my 'eye' to see them and my reactions to capture them.

For some of my photographer friends, it's more a case of using their new toy and seeing what it will do - pushing the envelope to the limit. Others just love creating records of family gatherings and outings. I'm sure there'll be adrenalin junkies and wannabe cutting-edge photojournalists out there, too.

What does it for you....?
04/10/2008 08:20:25
Adding a new camera and lens steph wrote:
All is added
Thx

Stéphane


Hi Steph.

Thanks for adding. However, the Bronica SQ-B is a 'camera' not a 'lens'. If you could swap it over for me I would be very grateful.

Finally, if you could also add Nikon F100, that would be extremely helpful.

Thank you.

Paul.
05/10/2008 09:01:17
Lens Can you please add Nikkor 17-55mm/f2.8

Thank you.

Paul.
04/12/2008 11:23:47
UPLOADS.WANTED. Hi guys.

Been having a truly awful time at work. I won't bore you with the details but it got so bad that I quit. I've found myself another job, which I start on Monday 08/12. Hopefully, my mood will improve and I'll find some time to complete my existing projects and start a couple of new ones, for which I have a couple of ideas...

Best wishes,

PJ.
04/12/2008 11:58:26
Adding a new camera and lens Hi Steph,

1) Still can't see Bronica SQ-B as a Camera on my profile.
2) Can you also add Zenzanon PS 40mm f4.0 as a Lens please

Thanks,

Paul.
04/12/2008 11:59:53
Adding a new camera and lens Hi Steph,

Aplogies......should also have asked you to add Nikon F100 to Camera list also.

Thank you,

Paul.
04/12/2008 12:12:27
Nikon D3x is out!!! The announcement is official. I had my flyer from Nikon (Nikon Pro Magazine - December 2008) at the weekend. It gives a full run-down on what this beast can do. If the press is remotely close to reality, this will give film a good run for its money.

However, the chances of me owning one are zero as the initial estimates are that it will cost £5,500 ($8,250) ad, as such it is only a rich man's toy and a tool of the professional's trade. Sadly, I am not rich; nor am I a professional photographer. It does however, make the D3 and the D700 look incredibly good value as they are both extremely highly regarded.....
04/12/2008 12:16:37
Why do we photograph? Because, like most photographers, I am a voyeur. I like my 'window on the world' and I'd like to think that one day I'll produce an image that's worth looking at.
04/12/2008 12:18:43
How do you close a Project? I have two projects 'in progress' at the moment. I want to close 'Love and Hate' but cannot find how to do so. Sorry for being a technophobe but can someone please give me the 'idiot's guide' to how to close one whilst leaving the other open.

Thanks,

PJ.
04/12/2008 16:17:07
How do you close a Project? Aha....!

Thanks for the tip. Found it and closed the project off.

Regards,

Paul
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